"Learning English" under strong carrieir on 12030 kHz, May 2

THAILAND(non)   VOA "Learning English" under strong carrier on 12030 kHz, May 2:
1130-1200 on 12030 UDO 250 kW / 300 deg to SEAs English Sat/Sun Rohingya Mon-Fri
At same time 12030 NOB 200 kW / 110 deg to N/ME open carrier REE Noblejas test??
1400-2200 on 12030 NOB 200 kW / 110 deg to N/ME Spanish Sat/Sun REE as scheduled
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ61yyptuQc&feature=youtu.be